It could also be used as a leveraging point in future peace negotiations, but there’s no sign of those starting any time soon.
Gillespie said there are clear risks involved in this strategy.
“Once you start finding incursions going into other countries, especially into Russia, the chances of more retaliation are likely. Your bigger risk is not that it goes into Russia, but that it spreads into neighbouring Nato-aligned countries around Ukraine.”
Gillespie said because of that, other countries are nervous about what could unfold from here and how Russian President Vladimir Putin might respond, which would be contingent on how successful the incursion is.
“The Russians, when they’ve annexed those two areas in the eastern Ukraine, have made very clear that if these were recaptured in total by the Ukrainian forces as assisted by Nato, they would consider this justification for a nuclear strike.
“And so, right now, I expect that they’re waiting for the Ukrainians just to retreat back around their border, not actually try to entrench that territory, but to actually take Russian territory is a fundamental objective that will not be allowed by Russia. They won’t allow any of their territory to be occupied permanently.”
The long-term impacts of this incursion may not be felt until the US election in November, with Republican candidate Donald Trump and Democrat Kamala Harris offering differing takes on Ukraine’s future.
“That’s where you will see the determination, because Trump’s made clear if he achieves the White House, he wants to have a peace deal cut very quickly. Whereas if Harris retains the White House, then you’re going to see a continuation of what’s already happening.”
Listen to the full episode for more on the potential implications of this incursion, and what may come next in the wider war.
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