Mike Murphy has never been shy when it comes to Donald Trump. A longtime Republican political consultant, Murphy led Jeb Bush's Right To Rise super PAC in the 2016 primary season and, in that role, did everything he could to slow the real estate mogul. It didn't work. But Murphy, who has spent decades working to elect and reelect dozens of senators and governors, believes that Trump's number is just about up - and that his reckoning will begin in earnest in next week's Wisconsin primary. My conversation with Murphy - conducted via email and edited only for grammar - is below:
Q: You tweeted recently that Wisconsin "is going to be Trump's Stalingrad." Explain why you think what happens Tuesday in Wisconsin will matter so much - and so much more than all the votes that have come before it?
Murphy: Wisconsin is a big primary, not a caucus, and a good measure of what Republicans are thinking right now. If Trump has jumped the shark like I think he has, a big loss in Wisconsin will prove the point and change the media narrative. The media will go from treating Trump like an amazing Dancing Mule Act - "Wow, I've never seen a mule dance the Jitterbug like that! Amazing! Get him a TV show! Call the neighbors!" - to asking, "Why is that mule crapping on the carpet? Who brought that stinky creature in here?!" Being a big loser is Kryptonite to Trump's overall con, and now, as the new Bobby Riggs uniting America's women in their hatred of him, Trump has stink all over him. So the media narrative will change from unstoppable rise to brutal fall, and Trump will not handle that well. His numbers will drop, and the remaining primaries will be like quicksand for him. He'll thrash and howl and make things worse. I thought this race would reflect the GOP's epic struggle between the mathematicians and the priests. Instead, this year has come down to a battle between a priest and a charlatan, and once found out, charlatans find themselves in big trouble very quickly. It usually ends in a funeral pyre surrounded by cheering priests.
I've been dubious that Trump would get to 1237 anyway - since it requires his vote share in April to increase, and I think it will decrease now - but if he takes a big hit in Wisconsin and he starts to decline, he won't be able to put a first-ballot win together and after that, he will be toast. I'd love to be a fly in the room in June when one of his yes men explains to Trump that a large number of his pledged first-ballot delegates are actually Ted Cruz people . . . it'll be like a Downfall remix.
Q: Let's assume Trump doesn't get to 1237 delegates before the convention. What's the best-case scenario for the broader Republican Party coming out of Cleveland?