Jonathan Hafetz, who argued Meshal's case for the ACLU, tried to draw a distinction, arguing his case involved law enforcement rather than military activity. Sullivan countered that the FBI agents, in trying to determine whether Meshal was a member of al-Qaida, were involved in intelligence-gathering.
Sullivan said the facts alleged in the lawsuit were "troubling." But he also repeatedly said he had to be mindful of how his ruling would be treated on appeal. "I have to look down the road" and anticipate what the appeals court and Supreme Court would do, he said.
Hafetz said that if the judge were to dismiss the lawsuit that would create a "sweeping exemption" to the right to challenge constitutional violations committed by federal agents.
Sullivan also seemed concerned about the government's position, asking pointedly whether Americans lose their rights when they leave the country. Justice Department lawyer Glenn Greene said no but added that the fact that this took place overseas was a factor in the case.
"I'm just trying to determine where the rights end ... because it's very troubling," Sullivan said.
Meshal, a Muslim, had traveled to Somalia to broaden his understanding of Islam, the lawsuit says. He was arrested while trying to enter Kenya from Somalia, at a time when much of Somalia was controlled by hard-line Islamists. Hundreds of people, including Islamist fighters, had fled Somalia for Kenya after Ethiopian troops invaded the country in support of a weak but internationally backed government. U.S. authorities in Washington have said that after interviewing Meshal in Kenya they determined he was not a threat and had not violated U.S. law.
Meshal was 24 when he returned home to New Jersey in 2007. His lawyers say he's now living in the Midwest but declined to be more specific to protect his privacy.
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