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Trump's lawyer allegedly raised possibility of pardons for Manafort, Flynn

By Carol Leonnig, Josh Dawsey, Rosalind Helderman
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28 Mar, 2018 08:00 PM4 mins to read

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Paul Manafort, US President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, leaves the federal courthouse after a hearing in Washington. Photo / AP file

Paul Manafort, US President Donald Trump's former campaign chairman, leaves the federal courthouse after a hearing in Washington. Photo / AP file

US President Donald Trump's lawyer told lawyers representing Paul Manafort last year that the President might be willing to pardon his former campaign chairman.

That would be if he was charged with a crime stemming from the investigation into Russian election interference, according to two people familiar with the discussions.

John Dowd, then Trump's lead lawyer, was described as floating the idea of a pardon for Manafort during the time he was under investigation by special counsel Robert Mueller, but had not yet been charged, these people said.

Dowd, who resigned as Trump's lawyer last week, also floated the offer of a pardon last northern summer to lawyers for former national security adviser Michael Flynn, according to a report today by the New York Times.

Mueller indicted Manafort on multiple charges of financial fraud in October. Flynn pleaded guilty to lying to investigators and agreed to cooperate with the Mueller probe in December.

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Dowd insisted today that he did not raise the idea of pardons with lawyers representing the two men.

"I had no such discussions with them," Dowd said in a phone interview. "We never talked about pardons. There was no reason to talk about pardons. No ma'am."

A spokesman for Manafort, Jason Maloni, also declined to comment.

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Robert Kelner, a lawyer for Flynn, declined to comment.

Legal experts said prosecutors could view the dangle of a presidential pardon to people under investigation as a criminal effort to obstruct justice.

Raising such a possibility could be viewed as an incentive for witnesses not to cooperate with investigators.

What Dowd precisely offered - and whether Trump was involved - could now become part of Mueller's investigation, which has included examining whether the President has taken steps to obstruct or stop the probe.

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Legal experts are split about whether the President can commit obstruction of justice while exercising powers that are constitutionally afforded to him, like the pardon power.

"It's an open question about which there's been a great deal of debate," said Paul Rosenzweig, a lawyer who served on the team of Independent Counsel Ken Starr that investigated President Bill Clinton.

The full truth is that it's stone cold stupidity on his part if he actually did it

Paul Rosenzweig

But, he added, "given the openness of both the legal and factual questions, it would be irresponsible of Mueller not to add this his inquiry."

"The full truth is that it's stone cold stupidity on his part if he actually did it," Rosenzweig added.

The New York Times first reported Dowd floated the idea of pardons with lawyers for Manafort and Flynn.

Flynn's family and advocates have indicated publicly that they are hoping Trump will pardon Flynn.

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In December, after Flynn pleaded guilty, Trump was asked by reporters if he would be willing to pardon Flynn and Trump replied he wasn't ready to discuss it - "yet."

"We'll see what happens," he told reporters before a speech he was giving at the FBI's National Academy. "Let's see, I can say this: When you look at what's gone on with the FBI and the Justice Department, people are very, very angry."

The possibility of a pardon raises new questions about why Manafort has repeatedly refused to cooperate with Mueller's team. He faces a raft of serious charges, and if convicted, faces decades in prison.

EXCLUSIVE: Trump's lawyer, John Dowd, discussed pardons for Paul Manafort and Mike Flynn with their lawyers last summer as Mueller was building cases against them. w/@MarkMazzettiNYT @Jo_Becker @maggieNYT @adamgoldmanNYT https://t.co/TokFLIAmfm

— Michael S. Schmidt (@nytmike) March 28, 2018

NBC News: In a court filing tonight in the Special Counsel's case against Alex van der Zwaan it identifies a Person A (an associate of Paul Manafort) as having ties to the Russian intelligence service, GRU, in 2016 when Rick Gates was in contact with Person A.

— Tom Winter (@Tom_Winter) March 28, 2018

Big news here is that Trump’s deputy campaign chair apparently knew he and Manafort were working with a former Russian intel agent. https://t.co/4irrjGkMIg

— Jim Sciutto (@jimsciutto) March 28, 2018

Trump campaign officials with confirmed contacts with Russians:

Flynn
Sessions
Don Jr.
Manafort
Kushner
Page
Papadopoulos
J.D. Gordon
Gates

— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) March 28, 2018
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