Former President Donald Trump visited the spin room after his debate with Vice President Kamala Harris, something he declined to do after his debate against President Biden in June. Photo / Kenny Holston, The New York Times
Donald Trump’s aggressive spinning of his debate performance suggested he knew it was suboptimal, and left aides considering how to move ahead with eight weeks to go.
Former President Donald Trump went into sales-pitch mode immediately after yesterday’s debate, walking into the spin room to extol his own performance, crowing on Fox News and going on a late-night posting spree to hype unscientific online polls that he said showed he had crushed Vice President Kamala Harris.
“That was my best Debate, EVER, especially since it was THREE ON ONE!” Trump posted on Truth Social, minutes after the debate ended, referring to the two ABC News moderators.
Trump was insisting the same things privately to advisers and allies in the hours after the debate, according to three people with direct knowledge who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the private conversations. Trump appeared jubilant, as if he truly believed what he was telling them, the three people said.
But Trump’s actions after the debate told another story.
In the lead-up to his debate with President Joe Biden in late June, Trump’s aides suggested that he might want to go into the spin room afterward. But he rejected the idea, and after his triumphant performance that night he felt no need to enter the spin room, understanding that his victory over the enfeebled president was so comprehensive that he could sit back and watch the press tear Biden apart.
His aggressive spinning Tuesday night and Wednesday morning (Wednesday and Thursday NZ time) appeared to be an unspoken acknowledgement that his performance was suboptimal.
The day after Trump’s debate with Harris, his aides and his allies were largely echoing his praise of his performance in public, but privately several conceded that the former president had a rough outing, in stark contrast to his more controlled appearance against Biden.
An exception was the recent Trump endorser Robert F. Kennedy Jr.
“Vice President Harris clearly won the debate in terms of her delivery, her polish, her organisation and her preparation,” he said on Fox News on Wednesday, adding that while Trump “wins” on substance, “he didn’t tell that story”.
Some of his allies chose to publicly blame his debate preppers instead of Trump himself. And yet at the same time, the supporters who are close to him were also of the hope that one bad night would ultimately not amount to much for an unpredictable, norm-busting presidential candidate who has had dozens upon dozens of bad nights over the past nine years.
His advisers began to brace for a wave of negative news coverage immediately after the debate, and for this to perhaps result in a temporary, modest polling boost for Harris. Some are expecting days of bad news cycles instead of a period of momentum in which they had planned to hammer Harris for her liberal record and connection to Biden.
The Harris campaign immediately embraced a second debate. Trump was more circumspect.
“The reason you do a second debate is if you lose – and they lost,” Trump told Fox News’ Sean Hannity on Tuesday night after the debate. By Wednesday, Trump was lashing out at ABC News. “They ought to take away their license for the way they did that,” he said in another Fox News appearance. He mused instead about which moderators from Fox he would find acceptable to host a second debate.
Few if any of Trump’s close allies and advisers share his purported view of his performance against Harris, though it is unclear how honest they have been with him so far. When Trump asks, “What do we think?” – as he did repeatedly to people he spoke to overnight and on Wednesday – the easiest response has been to tell him that he was great. And many took that path of least resistance.
Trump will most likely receive some of his toughest feedback through the television, even on what would normally be friendly shows. While some Fox News opinion hosts, such as Jesse Watters, hunted for the positives in Trump’s performance, many of the commentators on the network Wednesday morning did not offer glowing reviews.
“The moderators didn’t fact-check her, but there’s no reason he can’t do it,” former Representative Trey Gowdy, R-S.C., said on Fox News.
Senator Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., praised Trump on social media after the debate for making the case that America was safer under his administration. But in the spin room afterward, according to Politico, Graham was clearly disappointed, outlining what he wished he had heard: “What I was hoping for was: ‘When I left we had the most secure border in 40 years, mortgage rates were below 3%, gas was US$1.87, the Abraham Accords, energy independent, you screwed it all up.’”
Several Trump allies and advisers who spoke to The New York Times on the condition of anonymity said they saw the night as a colossal missed opportunity. He had one overriding goal for the evening: to force Harris to own her liberal policy record and to attach her in voters’ minds to the most unpopular aspects of the Biden-Harris record. Instead, he found himself defending many of his decisions and past positions, while spreading unfounded claims about immigrants’ eating pets.
Asked to comment, Karoline Leavitt, a Trump campaign spokesperson, said the former president went to the spin room “because he’s fearless and unafraid to take questions from reporters, unlike Kamala Harris,” and knocked her for not giving one-on-one interviews or holding news conferences.
She added that Trump “strongly drove home” his message that Harris was “responsible for the problems we are facing today,” a point Trump rarely made Tuesday night. And she insisted that Trump’s advisers “could not be more proud” of Trump “for delivering a masterful debate performance in a three-on-one fight,” accusing the ABC News moderators of ganging up on the former president.
Trump’s advisers and allies had hoped he would turn every question Tuesday night back to Harris’ incumbency, asking her why she hadn’t accomplished her plans in the 3 1/2 years she has served alongside Biden. His aides felt good about how he had performed in his prep sessions. One person briefed on the sessions said before the debate that he expected Trump to ask the television audience a version of the devastating question that Ronald Reagan posed in his 1980 debate with President Jimmy Carter: Were voters better off now than they were four years ago?
Yet Trump waited until the end of the debate to deliver a version of that argument, seeming to recall his key objective for the night only during his closing statement. He repeatedly took Harris’ bait, getting caught up on personal grievances like the size of his crowds, the dollar amount of his family inheritance and whether he won the 2020 election that he lost.
In his debate prep sessions, Trump’s advisers suggested “pivots” for many of the lines of attack that came up Tuesday night. These were typically responses that would turn the focus back to Harris’ partnership with Biden and their joint stewardship of the economy and immigration. But instead of using those pivots, Trump snagged himself on every trap that Harris laid out for him.
The question now for Trump and his aides is how to move ahead with eight weeks left in the race.
He went to a memorial ceremony for the 9/11 terrorist attacks in New York on Wednesday, shaking hands again with Harris and appearing to greet her cordially. He later visited a fire station, bringing along Laura Loomer, the right-wing provocateur who also travelled on his plane to the debate and who last year shared a video on social media calling 9/11 an “inside job”. Loomer, who has advanced the pet-eating story line, posted conspiratorial questions Wednesday about Harris’ earrings.
In the past, when he has faced similar moments of self-inflicted peril, Trump has tried to change the subject with an outlandish gambit or a campaign shake-up. He has publicly defended his campaign leadership but his recent empowerment of Corey Lewandowski to a senior role in the campaign has already caused friction within Trump’s team. Lewandowski, who was fired as his 2016 campaign manager, is known for having sharp elbows and encouraging a “let Trump be Trump” approach.
It’s unclear whether there will be any changes to the campaign’s approach – or to his own approach – after Tuesday.
After a disappointing performance, Trump typically casts around for others to blame. But at no point during his debate prep sessions was Trump advised to get hung up on responding to jabs about the size of his inheritance or over wild rumours about Haitian migrants’ eating pets, a person with knowledge of the sessions said.
Readied for a tough stretch, his advisers now hope he can turn his focus back to the economy, with plans to hold events to highlight the high cost of living under the Biden-Harris administration and to compare it with the much lower prices before the coronavirus pandemic when Trump was in office.
Trump is following the debate with a West Coast swing that includes one of his busier fundraising stretches. He will travel to Tucson, Arizona, on Thursday afternoon for a campaign speech billed as focused on the economy and housing, will hold a news conference at his golf course near Los Angeles on Friday morning and then a rally in Las Vegas that evening. In between the campaign events are a series of fundraisers, including in Los Angeles on Thursday night and in Silicon Valley on Friday afternoon.
One remaining question is whether Trump will debate Harris again. In 2020, the former President pushed his disastrous first debate with Biden out of the news in part because he contracted Covid and wound up hospitalised. But he also stabilised his standing with a stronger second debate in October.
This article originally appeared in The New York Times.
Written by: Jonathan Swan, Shane Goldmacher and Maggie Haberman
Photographs by: Kenny Holston, Dave Sanders
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