"Ah, when we meet the woman, we understand the man," beamed Nelson Mandela as he emerged from his car outside the Wellington Town Hall to greet my wife, Ruth, and I as we waited to host him at the Parliamentary Press Gallery 125th dinner.
This was Mandela - the man for whose freedom you wore a helmet to the Eden Park game in 1981 to protest, the man who broke apartheid and then helped to heal South Africa - here in person, shaking my hand.
It was November 1995. Mandela was on his first and only visit to New Zealand, where South Africa was being welcomed back to the annual Commonwealth Heads of Government Meeting (CHOGM).
A week earlier, meeting the Queen, I had blundered into an excruciating conversational cul de sac. I was determined not to screw up this time, as chairman of the Press Gallery with a guest who deserved to be described as iconic.