A new NBC poll today, which included some interviews conducted after the debate, gave Clinton a nine point lead. respondents were asked who won the debate and concluded Clinton 44 per cent, Trump 34 per cent and neither 21 per cent.
Another new national poll today shows a double-digit race: Clinton leads 49 per cent to 38 per cent in the Atlantic/PRRI poll. Last week it was 47 per cent to 41 per cent, and tied at 43 per cent in late September.
The question now is whether the defections restart. If Trump's debate achievement was to arrest his slide at 35 per cent, then it makes sense for Republicans to start jumping into the lifeboats.
Here's the basic calculation that Republicans facing re-election now face: unendorse Trump and see his base stay home, or endorse and lose swing voters appalled by his remarks.
At this juncture I think of Republican voters as falling into five broad categories, each with a different propensity for retaliation against Republican candidates who oppose Trump:
1 DIE-HARD TRUMP SUPPORTERS: These people wanted Trump, and only Trump, in the primaries. They hate the establishment. They viewed Trump as a weapon against the establishment, and will support sitting politicians only to the extent that those folks go along with Trump.
Propensity for retaliation: Absolute. Incumbents who oppose Trump can expect these voters to refuse to vote for them, or even to vote for their opponent.
2 TRUMP PRIMARY VOTERS: These folks voted for Trump in the primary but are not engaged in an all-out war on the establishment of their party. They liked the fact that he's an outsider. They admire his business acumen. They would rather listen to his unpolished style than the boring, focus-grouped talking points of a normal politician.
Propensity for retaliation: Medium-high. These people would have voted for another Republican, but they prefer Trump, and they will view an unendorsement as an attempt by leadership to thwart the will of the voters. However, some unknown number of these voters will have been offended by the tape, and will probably not retaliate against Trump defectors.
3 PARTY LOYALISTS: These folks probably voted for someone else in the primary, but do not feel the same horrified revulsion against him that #NeverTrump voters do. They will pull the lever for anyone with an (R) after their name. Their biggest concern is maximising the party's power.
Propensity for retaliation: Medium-low. They also don't like the idea of the party ignoring the voters. On the other hand, they are horrified by the idea of giving a Senate or House seat to a Democrat. The incumbents' biggest risk with these people is that they get demoralised and stay home.
4 SQUISHY REPUBLICANS: These folks usually vote Republican but may not be registered as a Republican and occasionally drift over to the other side of the ballot. They are not particularly interested in an attempt to remake the party into a more nationalist, populist entity, and are not going to participate in the Trumpista revolt. They will also find it psychologically easier to support Clinton than the aforementioned groups if they are horrified by the tape.
Propensity for retaliation: Low. They might stay home. They might vote for Clinton. But they are probably not going to get involved in strategically placing their congressional votes in order to serve some grand vision of the party's future.
5 #NEVERTRUMP: Uncertain in number, but high in passion, these people will vote Johnson or McMullin or write in their Aunt Agnes before they will ever pull the lever for Trump. They tend to be loyal Republicans, but some of them have cancelled their registrations over Trump.
Propensity for retaliation: None. They may phone bank for you if you call on Trump to step aside.
The problem is, no one knows exactly how big any of these groups is. Republican politicians essentially have to make a blind bet: Do I lose more swing voters by sticking with Trump, or more base voters by defecting from him?
If the latest poll results hold, they suggest that Trump has not only lost all swing voters, but is now cutting into the Republican base - and not just #NeverTrumpers, because he'd already lost them. The next question is: Does swing voters' animus toward Trump also affect their vote for Republicans in general?
There's no way to know yet, but my guess would be that at least some downticket Republicans will lose if they stand with Trump. What's on the tape is not spinnable, especially given prior accusations that he's actually done things similar to what he talked about on tape. The public hasn't heard as much about that yet. But by November, they will have.
By now there may be no way to win; no matter what they do, down-ticket Republicans may lose too many voters to win their election. But not every loss is created equal: Even the doomed can decide to die with honor.