The biggest surprise from the first US presidential debate in the Big Apple is that those who watched it are divided on who actually won the day.
It's surprising because the expectation going into it was that Donald Trump would bomb out. Unlike Hillary Clinton, he'd done little, or no preparatory work, something he scowled at Clinton for.
And his lack of preparation showed.
He came across as a nasty little boy who frequently puckered his lips when he was accused of telling porkies. But she came across as the condescending mother, tempting him with the early childhood birthday invitations but refusing to give him one.
She called for the fact checker on several occasions which, in a debate with scattergun Trump, would seem to be a wasted effort. When he was challenged, and when he clearly knew she was on the button, he accused her of having the mainstream media on her campaign team.