It was an invitation to lunch that was hard to refuse and we were in the Big Apple after all.
It was during the run up to the American Presidential election last year and the man who was a big hitter in the Mitt Romney camp four years earlier was no longer a political player, or so he thought, so it was a good opportunity to pick his considerable brain about what was making the Republicans tick with Donald Trump heading the ticket.
And it was even better getting a kiwi perspective on American politics from the former boss of Carter Holt Harvey who went on to pull the financial strings at Microsoft and General Motors. Four years earlier I spent an hour interviewing Chris Liddell on stage for the Auckland Business School and found him an engaging character.
In New York he greeted me with a bear hug and his perspective was certainly worth getting. He didn't hold out much hope for Trump pulling it off, but neither did most of New York with one Republican supporter telling me that with a Hillary Clinton win it'd be like putting a pistol to your head and pulling the trigger. With Trump he said the same pistol would be at the head but at least he'd be playing Russian roulette.
Well in the past three months or so, the trigger's been pulled more than once but Trump's still standing and it's Chris Liddell's job to ensure that continues to be the case.