Chris Wilkes is part of a conservation group that has just struck an unprecedented deal with the Department of Conservation, DOC.
If he and his supporters can keep pest numbers in the Kaitake Ranges down through trapping, the department has agreed to stop the use of 1080 poison in the region.
"In the next three years if we can get enough people involved, DOC won't do that 1080 drop in the Kaitake Ranges, which is fantastic," says Mr Wilkes, founder of the group.
The group, 100% Pure Taranaki, needs to achieve a 40% decline in rats and 18% decline in possums for the drop to be reconsidered.
"You can hear the abundance of bird life at the moment. But after the drop about a month after, I challenge you to come back. We won't be hearing these birds. It's just a reality," says Mr Wilkes
Numbers are measured by DOC using wax paper to record sets of prints or number of bites.