As for waterways Professor Rowarth says sediment is the biggest problem rather than pollution from farming as it makes them unsafe to swim in.
Sediment is caused by deforestation, construction and cropping according to Professor Rowarth.
When water pollution from animals has been raised as an issue, farmers responded by fencing off 40,000 kilometres of waterways. They understand the impact on the environment and are willing to take action.
Rachel Stewart doesn't understand the implications are of what she's recommending according to Professor Rowarth.
Listen to Professor Jacqueline Rowarth's full interview with The Country's Jamie Mackay above: