Don Carson wants to talk about climate change despite Jamie's protests. Mackay would much rather chat about how well things are going for farming at the moment.
Carson gets off on the wrong foot by saying the Shanghai Maling deal is not "particularly good". Then he doesn't really jump up and down about Fonterra's recent profit...
In fact, he's so off kilter with Jamie Mackay that The Country host begs him to talk about climate change!
Finally there's time for a life lesson about gardening which more townies should get involved in...including Dom George...
Have a listen to the full interview in the Soundcloud embed below:
