O'Connor believes unknowns and uncertainty in the markets is not great for a trading nation such as New Zealand and he predicts the banks will eventually be the winners out of all the turmoil.
Jamie plays devil's advocate by suggesting that Britain isn't even a market we should be worrying about and that China is the way to go.
Which leads neatly to the Shexit question. Are the Chinese getting cold feet?
O'Connor believes the owners of Silver Fern Farms need to have a discussion with their directors as it could affect the entire meat industry but he reckons all is not lost and that there are other sectors they could learn from.
One example is lamb which has recently been described as "New Zealand's champagne of the red meat industry".
Mackay missed an epic pun opportunity with "Lambpagne" there...
Hear Jamie Mackay's entire interview with Damien O'Connor in the Soundcloud embed below: