It's no secret that Grant McCallum is a fan of the National party, so the Northland cow cocky was in heaven at last weekend's National Party Conference.
McCallum bombarded The Country's Jamie Mackay with photos of his meeting with Sir John Key and other prominent National party members, along with former Australian PM John Howard.
It was safe to say McCallum was still slightly giddy on today's show.
Steve Wyn-Harris didn't make it to the National Party Conference but he says they are a more effective opposition party than Labour was.
Talk soon moves to John Wilson stepping down as Fonterra chairman. McCallum says Wilson was a "really strong co-op man."