A wry smile crosses Gary Stead's face as he delivers a truth that will bring back bad memories for New Zealand cricket fans.
"We're looking forward to playing England again, we're looking forward to it being a one-off game – where anything can happen."
Oh, how the Black Caps know that better than anyone.
Two years on from the infamous ODI World Cup final, New Zealand and England meet again in a World Cup knockout game, clashing in the Twenty20 World Cup semifinal tomorrow morning.
Eleven players will walk out in Abu Dhabi with the memories, or scars, of that day. Martin Guptill, Kane Williamson, Jimmy Neesham, Mitchell Santner and Trent Boult return on the New Zealand side, with Jonny Bairstow, Eoin Morgan, Jos Buttler, Chris Woakes, Adil Rashid and Mark Wood backing up for England.