Sit down with Kane Williamson and it quickly becomes obvious you're not talking to an average 25-year-old.
There's a calmness about the batsman just entering his prime. As a kid, he loved cricket so much he spent hours learning to be good at it. For him, the process is never-ending.
Neither success nor failure trouble him unduly, as long as he believes he's prepared as well as he possibly can to enjoy more of the former than the latter. And 2015 has been all about the former, from his double of 69 and 242 not out to start the year in style against Sri Lanka, to his just completed conquering red-ball tour of Australia.
The numbers are astonishing - 1032 runs in tests at an average of 103.2, 1317 ODI runs at 57.36, seven international centuries, 20 catches - but they only tell a part of the story.