The last time Pat Lam and his Blues rocked up to debrief a victory with the Monday media was in mid-February.
They discussed a clean sweep of pre-season trial games but the only subsequent victory in the results chart came offshore against the Bulls.
Since then, discussions have been against a crumbling backdrop, the threads of optimism have thinned as the descent continues for the Blues. Lam remains a staunch and emotional leader when he discusses the regular woes and is also talking about his desire to stay as Blues coach next year.
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