The rub on the Reds goes something along the lines of: They're a team with good individuals, they play direct and have a solid scrum.
They're also a side who have won two from nine and are the worst attacking team in Super Rugby this season in terms of points scored.
It all adds up to the fact that tomorrow's game between the Hurricanes and the Reds at Suncorp Stadium in Brisbane shapes as a banana-skin encounter for the Hurricanes.
The Canes were given a scare last weekend when they lost 29-24 to the Waratahs - their first defeat of the season. Tomorrow's match is their last overseas encounter this season.
"They've got some individuals who are really good on their feet and good ball players," Hurricanes skipper Conrad Smith said of the Reds. "They've still got the makings of a really good side."