COMMENT: Revelations that Steve Hansen regularly chats with Eddie Jones offered another side to the pressure-filled world of international rugby coaching.
The pair talk about life in the public eye and bounce ideas off each other about the direction and future of the sport they have coached for decades.
While that bond has continued, if the pair were asked to pick the best composite side before the All Blacks and England square off this weekend at Twickenham, England would be lucky to get a single starter.
Owen Farrell, Jonny May, Elliot Daly, Henry Slade, Ben Te'o, Ben Youngs, Maro Itoje and Dylan Hartley would get nominations but would all struggle to get picked. Even with Joe Moody's injury, Karl Tu'inukuafe would be the loosehead prop against anyone England cared to nominate.
The fascinating part of any discussion about any individual superiority is that England are well in the frame to challenge the All Blacks and upset their plans for a winning run this month.