For All Blacks fans it shouldn't be 2007 or 2011 that worries them ahead of Sunday's Rugby World Cup quarter-final clash with France in Cardiff but the most recent encounter two years ago might give more reason for concern.
Yes the All Blacks won 26-19 but the French gave them a hell of a fight. The first hint... Gregor Paul's match report begins: "Raw courage, a bit of luck and some magic from Charlie Piutau saw the All Blacks cling on to victory this morning in Paris."
One of those things will be absent on Sunday (Piuatu) and other could well be (luck).
And it continues..."And they really were clinging. A finger grip is all they had in the final minutes as France threw the kitchen sink at them and came so, so close to scoring the points they would have needed to have at least drawn."
A few key names in that All Blacks' lineup at Stade de France won't be at Millennium Stadium on Sunday. The back three of Israel Dagg, Cory Jane and Piutau never got on the plane after missing out on the World Cup selection. Other that featured included Tony Woodcock who started and Aaron Cruden, Steven Luatua and Ryan Crotty who were on the bench.