Much of the talk before the Rugby World Cup final will doubtless focus on the superstars in the respective back rows, Richie McCaw and Kieran Read for New Zealand, and David Pocock and Michael Hooper for Australia.
And that is to be expected because they are all outstanding players, but it might just be that the battle of the back rows, and therefore maybe the destination of the victory, is decided by the two unsung heroes wearing the number six jerseys, Scott Fardy for Australia and Jerome Kaino for New Zealand.
I reckon that if you were asking the respective players of each side as to the identity of the most valuable player alongside them - the so-called 'players' player of the year' that is always given - then Fardy and Kaino would be very close to the top of the list for both teams.
As a coach you are always more concerned with the process of events on the field, as opposed to the outcome. So instead of looking at the try scored, you will first look back at the breakdowns that brought it about, and I bet if you were the coach of New Zealand or Australia you would often find that either Fardy or Kaino has made a crucial intervention at the beginning of such things.
To me these players are gold dust. They are like Richard Hill was for England in 2003. They are almost first on the list when it comes to selection.