For Jerome Kaino think Keven Mealamu.
That's the message from All Black great John Kirwan, who says Steve Hansen has made a good strategic decision in easing the legendary blindside out of the test starting lineup.
Kirwan said Kaino, who will be 36 by the time of the next World Cup, still had a potential role however.
"It will be up to Jerome and he's still got some energy in those legs," Kirwan, a well-travelled coach who is now a rugby analyst, told the Radio Sport Breakfast.
"I don't think he is in his prime - we all love Jerome and if he wants to hang around for a few years he might have to take a second fiddle role similar to what Keven Mealamu did.