Success in the Rugby Championship must be some distant fantasy for Argentina who carry twin defeats into their next assignment against the All Blacks.
The Pumas will pick up frequent flyer points for their visit to New Plymouth next Saturday but little else if they reproduce the form of their home and away losses to the Boks. Unruly play and poor judgment pock-marked an initial 37-15 loss in Port Elizabeth and was repeated in their 41-23 downfall at Salta.
Captain Agustin Creevy's comments carried a forlorn edge as he spoke about how his side needed to "improve our field play, our breakdown and our discipline."
It carried a familiar tone to that description of the England cricket team decades ago, rather than their latest defeat, when writer Martin Johnson lamented there were only three things they couldn't do; bat, bowl or field.
The Pumas coach Daniel Hourcade has also rubbed out the indisciplined Tomas Lavanini after the young lock collected two yellow cards at Salta and was sent from the field. He was punished for a grass-cutter tackle and then for slapping down a pass.