The Bledisloe Cup may be safely in New Zealand's care for another year but for Kieran Read the idea there is nothing at stake tomorrow night in Brisbane is kind of laughable.
The All Blacks captain is not buying the idea of this test being a dead rubber and says motivation is typically high - driven by intrinsic pride and a desire to put together a performance that says what his All Blacks side are all about.
It is New Zealand versus Australia and that's enough to ensure minds are focused and attitudes are right.
"We know it is going to be a really tough game," said Read. "They are a lot more polished than when they started the year. They have got talent. There is no doubt about that. And they can certainly put it together as a full team at the moment. They are really hungry I guess their motivation is high.
"The combinations are smoother and you are used to each other," he said in relation to what he thought consistency of selection had brought the Wallabies this year.