Martin Johnson has spoken.
The 47-year-old, arguably King Country's most famous rugby export since the Meads brothers, has decreed what it will take for the British and Irish Lions to defeat the All Blacks in a series for the first time since 1971.
Johnson should know. Few players with nine tests' experience against New Zealand have won as many as they have lost.
His record is four wins, four losses and a draw. One of those victories was on his Lions debut, a 20-7 result on June 26, 1993 at Wellington.
He had previously spent two seasons playing for King Country and even represented the New Zealand Colts, valuable groundwork before returning to excel for Leicester and make his England debut.