Only 14 times has Richie McCaw experienced defeat in his career and he can remember each and every one in quite extraordinary detail.
The All Blacks skipper, who will play at ANZ Stadium for the last time tomorrow night, was in the mood for reminiscing ahead of equalling the world record for test appearances.
He was happy to reveal it's a major goal of his and the other senior players who are leaving at the end of this year to ensure they sign off with the Bledisloe safely tucked away.
He remembered the 2003 and 2010 victories in Sydney as being two of the better All Blacks performances for different reasons and he also talked about how valuable it was for him to begin his career as part of an All Blacks side who didn't have possession of the Bledisloe.
"I would love nothing better than to keep the Bledisloe in the cupboard... absolutely," he said. "It has been like that every year. I still remember back to when we didn't have it and, put yourself in the Wallabies shoes, they will be desperate to get their hands on it.