They weren't expected to win the State of Origin series but it's a pretty grim picture facing New South Wales now.
Not only have they lost the series 2-0 with one match to play but there is in-fighting among New South Welshmen and some extraordinary things being said by players.
Coach Laurie Daley is in a dilemma. He's now got one of the most successful coaches in NSW history in Phil Gould saying he's got it all wrong by trying to replicate Queensland's approach in both loyalty to players and game plan.
He can either heed that advice or basically raise the middle finger to Gould, and others, by sticking with his long-term plan.
Daley hopes loyalty to players will eventually bring success, in the same way it has for Queensland. Well, it hasn't worked for Daley and it doesn't look like improving any time soon. Yes, there have been some close games but they have still lost and there is truth in what Gould is saying.