Stephen Fleming personified test cricket class.
Style, elegance, technique. The lanky left-hander had the lot, even if he struggled for the big scores to match his ability.
But now one of New Zealand's finest first class batsmen wants New Zealand Cricket to give the traditional form of the game a bit of a bash.
Fleming, who coaches in the Indian Premier League and Aussie Big Bash, says New Zealand should scale back its emphasis on test cricket in favour of promoting players who excel in the shorter forms.
The conflicts being caused by the rise of T20 cricket, particularly in Australia, came to a head when veteran Kiwi star Kiwi Ross Taylor was blocked by the NZC hierarchy from a quick hit with the Melbourne Renegades this month.