Before you write off the back markers in tonight's Smith And Partners Lawyers Winter Cup at Alexandra Park, consider something a little strange about the horses they are chasing.
While the likes of Hug The Wind and Bettor Spirits (20m) and Beyond The Silence (10m) are giving away starts to the kids off the front line, the latter are giving away plenty of experience.
Tonight's 2700m feature sees high class three-year-olds Shandale and Motown take on serious older horses while promising last-start winners Jo's Dream and Hank Bromac join them on the front line. But none of that quartet has yet to race from a standing start.
That doesn't mean they won't step away safely, even brilliantly, and give their more experienced rivals some fresh young legs to chase. But if you are betting on the young guns don't be surprised if a couple of them misfire.
It is one of the oddities of New Zealand harness racing that classic horses like Motown and Shandale can place in the Jewels and NZ Derby respectively but then have to learn a whole new skill when they progress to the intermediate grades, where so many races are standing starts.