Netball bosses are assembled in Melbourne this week for the latest round of talkies about the future shape of the transtasman league.
But if the first six years of the competition have taught us anything, it is don't expect any changes any time soon.
Since the ANZ Championship kicked off in 2008, the sport's bigwigs seem to have been locked in an endless loop of feasibility studies, focus groups, reviews and stakeholder consultation as they consider improvements to the shape and structure of the competition. Yet now into its seventh season, the product is the same as it was when the competition kicked off in 2008.
The latest discussions taking place are around a "shift and shape" of the competition. League bosses have been mulling over moving the tournament to the summer months, while also considering a couple of options to extend the play-offs format.