There was a little of Sir Alex Ferguson's indignation on display when Ryan Giggs was asked about the notion that his club face league leaders Arsenal as second favourites in tonight's English Premiership League contest (NZT).
"Are you making us underdogs?" Giggs asked. "Manchester United vs Arsenal at Old Trafford - underdogs?"
Arsenal haven't shown any of the invincibility they had when winning the title at Old Trafford in 2002 and have not faced any of last season's top four yet. They have not encountered a scoring threat of the calibre of Wayne Rooney and Robin van Persie yet.
Though manager David Moyes will bring a different philosophy, United believe they have the measure of Arsenal.
Moyes shared Giggs' mild indignation. Arsenal are coming to play the champions of last season, he said. He has beaten Arsene Wenger only three times, drawn six and lost 17 over his years in charge of Everton and Preston North End but the manner of United's victories in the last two seasons mean an Arsenal win would be an extraordinary statement about how the two have diverged.