Nakui P
There is no point resting players like Shane Bond. Shane hasnt really had enough game time as it is because of his injury problems. The same goes with most of the other players. NZ cricket as a unit has always been down with injuries and because of that there is absolutely no consistency. The team is always different for each series since key players are always injured and then when you add the rotation theory in the mix, you then start losing games and losing them badly. 1. NZ must work on its fitness. 2. The rotation would only work if all the players were consistently fit. So, bottom line really is fitness. Without fitness, you really dont get enough game time under your belt to find the winning way.
Murray O’Neill
I was there last Saturday and could not believe our oft’performance against the unconventional Sri Lankan attack. If that was a side hungry for success in the upcoming Chappell Hadlee, Tri Nations and World Cup series then I really wonder if Bracewell & Co know what they’re doing? I know injuries have been beleaguered the team but surely we can do better than that. God help us against Australia! I like most fans still cling to a distant belief that the Black Caps can turn it around and produce a string of performances befitting of our national side, but on the other hand the Aussie drums are already beating. Go the Kiwis.
Anthony Gough
We need Australian coaches and methods!! This historical link to English county cricket must cease if we are ever to improve. Look at the current state of the English team surely is that not proof enough. The Australian Rugby bosses emulated NZ systems years ago with World beating results. They also had little depth to call on. If you wish to be the best then you need to study the best.
Mano Manoharan
Unless Black Caps improve their playing ability and take interest in the game of Cricket for the sake of the country they represent, it will be a disaster at the World Cup.
Ian Hutchins
The New Zealand prima donnas who comprise the cricket team should give up the noble sport of cricket. Perhaps set up a challenge at marbles
Joshua Teal
There is only one way to describe the Black Caps latest adventures: particularly shoddy. The only real question for cricket fans is who will finish last in the upcoming tri series? New Zealand or England? Both teams are playing so poorly at the moment.
John Lawrey
This so called team is a disgrace. Watching Australia one can see the pride they have in the baggy green and they play as a team, always performing like winners even when behind on scoreboard. I do not recall any of Blackcaps putting plight of Zimbabwe people above their scramble for dollars and opportunity to inflate test averages Ultimate disgrace was Flemings failure to recall Murali in first test runout. McCullam is too thick to appreciate traditional values of cricket but Fleming has no excuse. Response to well deserved roasting was blather about livelihoods etc, no talk of epresenting nation in an honourable manner.
Darren Hale
The time for excuses has to stop, Bracewell has not improved the batting techniques of this team in the time he has been in the job. They badly need a recognised world class batting coach to make sure all the batsmen are up to scratch not just concentrate on bowling and fielding. Even the bowlers must be able to contribute runs against all types of bowling. We badly need to stop batsmen from excusing themselves from net practices, basically what the coach says goes no excuses. Hamish Marshall is a prime example.
I am as a cricket loving member of the public, sick and tired of the excuses after each bad loss by Fleming who my opinion as a aaptain is just about past his use by date and Vettori is superior in this area in my opinion. They must learn how to play the swinging ball, Marshall one of the worst offenders.- In a word Hamish if your reading this if you want to play for New Zealand stop the prima donna I do what I want attitude; admit you have bad technical problems in your technique and get in those nets and get help and goes for the rest of thew team as well. John Bracwell needs to stop the stupid bizarre experiments and get in a decent batting coach because obviously he is out of his depth with coaching batting. On a final note I’m impressed by Jeetan Patel (needs more games to develop batting and bowling) and Mark Gillespie.
Sam Tansley
I think there is nothing wrong with the team at the moment. Fleming is a legend and Daniell Vettori, Criag McMillian, Brendan McCulum and Hamish Marshal and Nathan Astle are all great players. You have got New Zealands best players in there. Proven from them form in the national competition. They are hand picked by an expert selection panel including the likes of Richard Hadlee etc. The problem is NZ is not getting the exposure to the rest of the world like our All Blacks are. We do not have a build up where we play weaker nations before taking on the stronger nations. We also need to continually be playing the worlds best teams on a consistent basis. We need to be playing Pakistan, India, South Africa, Australia, England, Sri Lanka more regularly. More series and tournaments with these great cricket playing nations are just what the doctor has ordered.
John Ramsay
The only rotation that the NZ cricket team should be indulging in at present is that among players within the best available squad of 13 plus that required by injuries to key players. The current absence of Styris, Oram and Mills gives ample opportunities to blood new players and, of course, is necessary to fill the gaps. Otherwise, what is this rotation nonsense all about? Further humiliation for NZ cricket at a time when confidence and technique need all the boosting that they can get? Neither of the NZ wins in this series were really convincing and the losses were abominable. This team needs players in form not those rested out of form. And rested from what exactly?
Kotigalage Roshan
I think the rotation policy affects the match but I am not sure whether it is the only reason for the New Zealand defeat. I think some good bowling and bad foot movements help Sri Lanka to win the match. Also it is not that much shock, because the Australian team can one day fall for 80 runs. That is cricket. May be in this next match Sri Lanka will dismiss for a low score. But I can not agree with the rotation policy because we are gonna miss some good cricket from good players and we gonna put international cricket standard lower that where its should be.
Rodger Williams
They should only be paid on performance. No good score means no pay.
Tony
Bracewell is a disgrace. At this point he has lost all credibility by sticking with the Marshall twins (who score heavily in domestic but arent up to international level) and by ruining the career of Lou Vincent who, up until he was dropped (for no apparent reason!) had scored a test double hundred against Sri Lanka, a fifty against Zimbabwe and was a leading run scorer in the English county scene. The rotation policy is a joke and his failure to blood Taylor (and Ryder) during the champions trophy was a huge mistake. When are NZ cricket going to come to their senses and get rid of him? NZ supporters have had enough.
Paul Graham
The more players that are given the opportunity to compete at international level, the better for New Zealand cricket at this stage. It is too late to be experimenting with the side with the World Cup looming later this year. The development and plan should have been in place by now. Rotation ensures key players that have a busy schedule do get a break as well as giving the rest of the squad a chance to contribute and do it without them. To be successful the national team needs a development plan. New Zealand cricket needs to identify key potential players at an early age and provide the resources to develop them with a view to becoming part of the national squad. Picking current in form players is not the key. A definite strategy over time will yield results. If the supporters see this happening, I am sure they will be patient enough to take some pain before the gain. Does New Zealand cricket have the financial resources and facilities to be a consistent top 4 performer in the current international cricket landscape?
Pushpa R Wijesinghe
I’ve got to blame the rotation policy for the poor performance of BC. The move should have been wise and rational. Graham Henry can do it as he has got a very talented and ruthless army. Even the top 36 are left out, he will have another 36 . I reckon that Bracewell may not find such luxury as the great majority of star players of the BC are just ordinary and no where near the rest of the players in the best league. So it is high time that he used his handful of important resources wisely. It is sad that the summer game is dying in NZ. The era of Hadlees, Cooneys,Chatfields and Crowes are just nostalgic memories and cricket fans miss 1980s (golden era of the game in NZ)a lot. Like in Rugby union and league, the future of the game lies in South Asian Kiwis, Islanders and Maoris with greatest respect to Pakehas. Administrators need to popularise the game among non pakeha population as well if NZ desires to be a potent force like trans Tasmen neighbours,Australia.
Lucky Mohotti
Sri lankan are the strongest team in the world and they are only team can beat up Austrailians.
Anuradha Diyagama
I do not think Mcullum is the right choice to open the batting for the Black Caps. Although he can play some shots, it seems to me that he lacks good techniques to be a successful opener. It is my view that John Bracewell has got everything wrong by introducing this so called rotation policy. It definitely can work with Rugby but not with cricket. As Adam Parore once wrote in one of the articles, Black Caps needs a winning habit if they are to be successful in the forth coming World Cup. Resting of a batsman in the calibre of Fleming is laughable. Black Caps are a capable lot but in the wrong hand.
Mark
I certainly hope NZC didn’t have the cheek to charge full price for that pathetic performance. I would think I would get to write this but after the weekend, the Knights were a better watch than the joke of the Black Caps. McMillian? Remind me what the excuse was for dropping him? We all know he’s a waste of space and should not be near the side. Correct me if I’m wrong but was not the spin a lack of fitness and conditioning. I know the camera adds a few pounds but seeing him waddling around the ground is a farce. Get rid of him. With a girth like that he would be more at home in baseball and while we are at it Andre Adams can not bowl, can not field, can not bat. The way things are going at present even the woeful Poms will knock us over.
D.Hay
I am a Kiwi living in Australia and follow the cricket here. Following the Ashes series and having watched every match, I believe that the English bowlers were not much worse than the Australians and at times, they were better. Their series was lost with poor batting performances. If the Black Caps do not put more time & effort into improving their batting, they have no hope of beating any of the better teams.
Rahul Withanage
I was surprised to read the comments from one Mr Ameet Kumr among some very constructive comments from the readers. Mr Kumar was saying NZ should not waste time playing teams like SL, but should be playing against England, India. Playing with OZ and SA is fine as they are better teams than Sri Lanka. SL beat England 5-0 in England a few months ago. Anyone can see SL in their current form, is a team much better than England and India. Mr Kumar fails to see the positive batting of Jayasuriy if not the bowling of Vass’a.
John Carstensen
What is Hamish Marshall doing in the team? What has he done in the last few years? He does not even believe in net practice. Goodbye Hamish.
Ben
A rotation policy is a nice idea in theory, but it does not do the players any good to be constantly shuffled around the batting order. A consistent batting order, with the occasional experiment (eg McCullum up the order) is better for player confidence. Similarly, bowlers work better when hunting as a pack, the way the English did in Ashes 2005. A settled bowling line up, with the occasional change based on pitch/weather conditions, is therefore a better strategy. Hopefully Braces has now seen what he hoped to see and will select only on merit from here on in.
Karl Goddard
I am currently in the UK on holiday and was delighted to find the highlights of the NZ SL one day series being broadcast on one of the Sky Sports channels. Watching the previous match I could not help but admire Jayasuriya’s batting at the top. It reminded me of the kind of innings Astle used to deliver when he opened. Our bowlers are consistently bowling in the wrong place why is it that the best pace bowlers in the world can hit the good length and make it difficult to be hit out of the park four or five balls out of every six, while most of our guys seem to have one good ball and one or two not sobad deliveries, then three loads of rubbish every over? Still, I think we bowled well in the middle of the SL innings and 260 should have been within the reach of our batsmen. Where things really went wrong was in the batting. I am a big fan of Stephen Fleming and think that he is not only our greatest ever captain but one of our greatest batsmen of all time, when he is in form. I do not believe, however, that he should be opening the batting. Not at all. McCullum is a powerful and aggressive player but I do not think the experiment with him opening is working although well done to Braces for having a go, mainly because it should shut everybody up about where the keeper should be batting now! I do not think I have seen such a long tail in a NZ team for many years, and it really would have helped to have McCullum down there. We missed Franklin the other night as well. He has become a good contributor over recent times. I ca not figure out what is going on with the Marshall selections at all. Great domestic players but sub-par for the international stage. Ross Taylor has yet to impress apart from his one good innings, and Peter Fulton is struggling at the moment. We are seriously missing key players such as Styris in particular, and Oram and Mills as well. I think we need to select a specialist opener. Whhere is Michael Papps, or is he still injured? Matthew Bell seems in good form for Wellington and must still have a few years left in him. Lou Vincent can bat explosively well but can also build a good innings at times. Let us say Vincent and Astle to open again, with someone such as Taylor, Fulton, Jesse Ryder or one of the Marshalls at three, Fleming at four, then Styris, McCullum, then Vettori, Franklin, Mills, Bond, and Patel. Cover in the squad can come from McMillan, the two players not selected at number three, Oram, Mason, and Gillespie. Obviously the side selected above includes a number of players that are not yet fit to play, which is the biggest perennial dilemma facing the Black Caps. We play the least international cricket out of the six biggest sides in the game, yet seem to be more afflicted with injuries than anyone else. More match conditioning needs to occur as well, during the off season. Whether this means more players in English County cricket or more training camps I do not know. The one thing I do know is that I would not want to be John Bracewell right now! All the best to the BCs for the fifth match, and the Commonwealth Bank tri series.
KS Grewal
When Black Caps lost the test match at Basin reserve. Murali was chucking, now John Bracewell is rotating, and what will be the excuse, when the Black Caps will lose in commonwealth series? Come on Braces, be ready with an excuse, so that we can read and laugh.
Luke Lewis
From an Aussie point of view, I really do not think NZ can afford to rest and rotate players. Australia and a few other countries do it but then they played double the amount of cricket NZ did last year. What NZ need is their top players in top form going into the world cup and clearly resting your top players especially when 2 or 3 regular members are unfit is not smart at all. What will happen now is that the players who were rested will be out form since they’re short of match practice and the backup players are demoralized by some amazing cricket from the Sri Lankans. Last year we had a close and competitive triangular series with SL and SA. SL won the first final and then we won the next two finals and the series. This year with NZ and England I think we’ll just have to play our A-team to give NZ and England an opportunity to beat us. Good Luck.
Joe Davids
What was truly amazing about the loss was the fact that the SKY TV commentators were reluctant to blame the batsmen and the rotation policy instead focusing on the high number of lbw decisions, which were awarded to the Sri Lankans. NZ will never be a world force in cricket as long as they produce ultra seaming pitches which make average bowlers like Tuffey, Mason and O’Brien seem good. We need flat sporting pitches like they have in Australia to hone both our batting and bowling skills.
Priyalal Fernando
I wish that New Zealand will be spared of a another humiliating defeat by Sri Lanka. Sri Lanka would have wrapped up the series much earlier if not for their silly errors .They won the two one dayers by huge margins, pushing the New Zealand cricket in to the shame in the history boks. Come on Sri Lanka. Show your capabilities and bring glory to Sri Lanka. We need this win and the series to give boost up to Sri Lanka at this hour. Let Martin Crowe shout to the wilderness.
Stephen Hodge
The techniques of the New Zealanders are not up to it, and getting worse. Bracewells iconoclastic approach means his sides tear up all coaching manuals and invent new ways of complicating what should be simple: keep your head down, watch the ball, keep the ball on the ground, move your feet. The embarrassing efforts of young players brought in for the 20/20 game highlighted this for me: show off shots like reverse sweeps and slogging to midwicket are no way to make an impression, and the Sri Lankans were laughing at us. A former coach said a couple of months ago they (the players) were confused because they did not know whether to attack or defend, but you still have to move your feet. Slogging is not attacking play. We have a team of tail-enders.
Greg
How can they expect the rotation policy to work if they fail to introduce cricket to the island nations.
Nalin T
S.L was in a destructive mood and when this happens such as Sanna starting an innings with his bat talking, it is very difficult for any opponent to come back. This has always been the case. The bottom line is let’s expect a cracker on the last decider as both teams so far are even. Good luck to both teams who have both had ups and downs in this series.
Tim Fraser
New Zealand cricket has a huge amount of talent. Enough to be the 2nd or 3rd best side in the world after Aussie. But not with John Bracewell in charge. It is said that the coach is only noticed when a team is doing badly and when the team is doing well they are ignored. That argument could well be applied to John Bracewell. If the Blackcaps had ever played to their potential under him. But apart from winning the ICC Champions trophy all those years ago, I struggle to think of a time when I could say the Blackcaps were performing at the best of their abilities. Therefore I must conclude that the Blackcaps can only go back up when John Bracewells head rolls.
Travis Bradley
I totally disagree with the whole rotation policy.Black Caps are not like the All Blacks(unfortunately). When will the New Zealand selectors wake up and understand that we are not loaded with a wealth of talented players like Australia and that our best chance to win games is by having our strongest team on the field at all times. I strongly believe that we can beat any team in the world with our best players all playing and not just a mix and match B team.What about a vote of no confidence in regards to John Bracewell, Ever since he has taken over the coaching responsibilities in both forms of the game New Zealand has gone backwards substantially. Why is Hamish Marshall still in the mix for the team? He constantly gets given life line after life line to score disgraceful 1’s , 2’s and other shabby scores under 10.I would hate to have be the next batsman in after Hamish Marshall, because you know that you’ll be replacing him at the crease in a few balls or overs 99 per cent of the time! Far too much pressure is being put on other batsman because of poor selection in out of form players. I hope that the selectors can get it right before the Tri series starts in a few days,because all fans of the BlackCaps deserve so much better than was has be shown over this Sri Lankan series.
Ajith Wijesuriya
New Zealand Cricket should not follow the example of Aussie cricket, and a few of the other countries in adopting a rotation policy. Sri Lanka attempted this policy in the two games before the Auckland debacle and were found wanting. New Zealand must have thought they had won the lottery when they heard that both Malinga and Vaas were rested for the Christchurch encounter. The Black caps won that game in a low scoring affair. I wonder what would have eventuated if both Malinga and Vass had played! Obviously the Kiwis learned nothing from that. Although the All Blacks can afford this luxury, New Zealand cricket clearly does not have the depth of talent to do so. Therefore resting Fleming in the two games before Auckland and resting Vettori for the Auckland game was a dredful mistake. Astle was injured and there was an excellent reason for him not to take the field. To-date I have not seen any official from New Zealand cricket accept responsibility for their mistakes. They seem more intent on stubbornly defending their mistakes with incredulous explanations. Sorry New Zealand the supporters deserve better.
Wil Manning
New Zealand Cricket does not have the depth of talent to employ a rotation policy. Also, compared to many other international teams they play a lot less cricket and the cricket they do play in New Zealand is in very player friendly conditions weather-wise compared to other countries so the idea of resting players is just bizarre. Unfortunately New Zealand has an obsession with rugby (which is a globally minor sport compared to soccer, cricket and other sports) which means cricket will always suffer unless attitudes change. If New Zealand is going to have any success in Australia or The World Cup then they need to settle on a line up and that line up needs to be the strongest available. McCullum is an aggressive batsman but is better suited to playing down the order as he hasn’t shown the ability to play the longer innings which will win matches like Adam Gilchrist or a certain other batsman from Sri Lanka who is in New Zealand at the moment.Fleming and Vincent to open with Astle coming in at number three.
Joe
I’d like to thank Martin Crowe for giving Sri Lanka the motivation to wipe the floor with the Black Caps in the test and one day series. Let’s be honest, Sri Lanka were a no threat for NZ when they arrived but now they have exposed NZs frailties to the world. I hope Martin will take the time to examine the batting woes of our home side and offer some words of encouragement as opposed to re-hashing new calls for investigating Muralis action. If he did this to shift the focus off the awful Black Caps, then it was a masterstroke. Cheap shot, but smart otherwise. With the World Cup so close, maybe the trouncing we received can only help us get better. The only way from here is up.
Jacko
Sorry but Saturday’s performance was a disgrace. Even with rotation you expect your batting line up to better 74 in any conditions! The inconsistencies within the Black Caps were again brutally exposed. Fleming led from the front - a duck to a classic Fleming dismissal. Then the rest followed suit. These guys are highly paid - perhaps they can refund the ticket buyers for such an embarrassment. Craig Macmillan back in the side. What!?
Andrew
Oh, here we go again. Rotation of players to try and gain depth and experience. Except the only flaw here is that we don’t have any depth in NZ cricket. The same old horses and only 3 or so world match capable players makes it impossible for rotation. And like rugby, doing this to cricket will turn most people off the sport and away from the stadiums because who wants to go watch experimental games you are paying good money for? Play your best 11 Bracewell or go experiment with someone elses countries team. I, like many NZers, want to watch an exciting game with our best players every game. NZ and Australia are miles apart in a lot of things but most importantly mindset. They want and expect to win and implement all they can to achieve this. We do not and until we get some straight talking leaders and players we will not be a team to seriously show a consistent challenge. We are hopeful that the ABs can at least make the final in the rugby and look how consistent they have been, so what chance have the BCs got of winning the Cricket World Cup?
Vimal Nair
I,like many others, am extremely disappointed at the Black Cap performances to date. Watching Australia play test cricket is more exciting than watching the one dayers with the Black Caps. John Bracewell needs to go. His rotation and selection policies are not working. The Black Caps are not in the same league as the All Blacks so trying the rotation policy when we do not have the depth is risible. This close to the World Cup, we should know who our top 14 players are. The fact that we do not shows that Bracewell is not up to the task.
Natarajan.S
1)Send Black caps into training sessions of All Blacks and ask them to kick the ball hard, That will help them in avoiding cricket lbws when they learn to kick the cricket ball they do not need a bat at all.
2)Increase their bat width by four inches each side
3)Decrease their pad width and length by 2 inches on both sides
4)Send John Bracewell to a skiing Holiday in Antartica.
5)Change the cricket rules to allow throwing instead of bowling by Kiwis, Take coaching from Lasith Malinga and Murali.
6)Ban Chanminda as being non-chucking member of the Srilankan Team
7)Give Awards to those two umpires for giving 6 lbws to only one team and ask them to coach our other umpires to how to give lbws immediately when any contact of ball with the pad happens even in the net practice
8) Forget about World cup -Create some NZ cup and stay with it. Name it the John Bracewell New Zealand Cup for giving BCs lowest and the second lowest scores two times.
Fizzer
Marvellous! That is probably what Australia and England must be saying to themselves after this super result by the Kiwis. Rotation is a great policy but one needs depth first. Perhaps someone should tell Mr. Bracewell that too.
Tony Christian
Rather than looking for brilliant quick fixes. NZ should look to working hard on the basics, especially fielding, with a stable squad of players that are assured of maintaining their positions for 12 months & get on with it. With a brilliant fielding side the confidence will grow and the batting and bowling will follow.
Jonathan Gadd
A quick check on cricinfo tells us that Australias cricketers played 20 more days of international cricket in 2006 than did the Black Caps. Australia generally do not rotate sowhy do we? Fleming and Astle need as much time in the middle as possible. The argument that we need to have depth in case 1 or 2 of the top line fall over at the World Cup is rubbish. The reality is that if that does happen then we are screwed anyway. We should always play our top team.
Dan McQuillan
The idea of having Brendon McCullum open the innings has merit, but I do not like what it is doing to the balance of the side and the lower order in general. This was a strength and has been exposed to be a weakness now, especially with our all rounders being pushed out of position (Vettori at 5?) and the loss of Mills, Styris and Oram to injury, simply the tail is too long. Astle has 16 ODI hundreds, let him open as itis what he does best. Personally I would like to see the team in this order:
Astle,Fleming,Taylor,Fulton,McMillan,H.Marshall,McCullum,,Vettori,Franklin,Bond,Gillespie. Good luck, Mr Bracewell, on this form you will need it.
Jonathan Moulton
I thought it was good to see Craig McMillan at the crease for awhile. Yes, he was fortunate to be dropped and also with the close LBW shout but surely this innings can only fill him with confidence. He played an innings that is not usually typical of him and was made to work hard for his runs. He showed some good grit and determination for his innings and I know who I would be choosing at the moment between McMillan and Marshall should it come to it. All in all it was a poor display but I can’t take anything away from Sri Lanka, they batted and bowled well, did the basics right and thoroughly deserved their victory. Get back to basics NZ, show the world what you’re really about. Let us win tomorrow and win the series! Good luck boys!
WH
Vaas, Malinga and Murali are quality bowlers. Our attack dimissed Sri Lanka for 112 earlier in the series - a series that is, after all, tied 2-2. We have never had the world’s strongest batting line-up. It is possible that we never will. Taylor and Fulton deserve their chance; Styris and Oram are still to return to the side after injury. Sri Lanka are good and we were experimenting. It is a disappointing result, but we should retain a sense of perspective.Having said that (and I don’t know what the players and administrators would say) I would replace the coach after the World Cup.
Rossnz
The Black Caps should perform all batting practices without pads. They will quickly learn what the bat is for.
Reece Palmer
The real problem is the gulf in standard between our domestic competition and the level of international play. Some players do very well in domestic play (Marshalls et al) but they seem to be brittle at international level. Also comparing the selection choices Ted has to those Braces has is like comparing (no disrespect intended) Auckland rugby union to Wairarapa Bush. The sheer number of quality players means the teams produced by each will be very different in terms of their results. The greater number of internationally hardened players we have the better, if that means we have to suffer the pain of an ignominious defeat now and then so be it. But those defeats also (hopefully) make the players selected and pushing for selection more resolute in their desire to perform at the highest level and all that entails. It was embarrassing on the terraces, not because the crowd were leaving, not because the Sri Lankan supporters made more noise in the Panasonic stand than the rest of the ground combined, but because as happened on a far more sunny day not too long ago at the same ground the national team just seemed to have given up and went through the motions. That game was the antecedent for all of the overzealous security we now see in the terraces.
SLNZ
I found the game to be rather entertaining (bar the end). Funny how NZ decided to pick Hamish Marshal when his brother scored 150+ not out. There is a difference between resting/rotating players and out right dropping them off the squad for not performing. I think its time to start shaking off the o