John Wright was never one to get too carried away as a player - there was no kissing of the silver fern when he scored a ton or wild high fives when a catch was taken - and he's certainly not become more animated as a coach.
It's why he's keeping New Zealand's incredible seven-run win over Australia this week in perspective. Two boundaries nicked down to third man or a dropped catch, like the ones they spilled in Brisbane, could have been the difference between squaring the series or slinking back to New Zealand thinking about a first test win in Australia since 1985.
But there's a general expectation this Black Caps side has the potential to lift themselves from the lower rungs of world cricket and, with 19 tests over the next 18 months, they will play enough test cricket to have the chance to become a useful outfit.
Sadly, the first one won't be until the end of January, in the one-off test with Zimbabwe, and there's a glaring absence of first-class cricket in New Zealand before then to maintain momentum and, for some, find form.
In terms of of Hobart becoming a defining moment for this side, Wright wouldn't hear any talk of it. One win doesn't make a summer, and all that.