But Rodman adds to DuJour, "When I first went there it was so ... communist. Dry and dreary ... like 'The Walking Dead.' But the third time I went there, wow. [Pyongyang] changed a lot ... [Kim] is building all these new condos and hotels. He built the largest water park in the world, a ski resort and this big bowling alley."
Rodman also says he was "shocked" to visit the "frozen" bodies of Kim Jong-un's grandfather and father in a mausoleum.
Rodman says, "The grandfather is in the middle of the room ... and he's frozen. That's a true story!" Rodman reports, "150,000 people go in a day. They have to wear black suits. You see them crying the whole time."
Of Kim's nuclear plans, Rodman adds, "He's saying the reason why they have the nuclear bombs is because they know that Americans think they can take over.
He says, 'I don't want to bomb anyone. But we keep our nuclear weapons because we're such a small country - that's the only way we can defend ourselves.' They just want people in America and the government to know they don't hate Americans. They want to work with Americans."