If for nothing else, David Kirk has a permanent place in All Black history as the captain of the World Cup-winning side in 1987.
His rise to the leadership had been awkward as New Zealand rugby jostled with the problems of the Cavaliers crisis before injury rubbed out Jock Hobbs then Andy Dalton.
Kirk captained the Baby Blacks in '86 but when he lost the leadership for the end of year tour to France he considered giving the game away. He travelled but there was an uneasy harmony in the group and the halfback felt under pressure for his place.
The old guard were not so taken with the intellectual clean skin who had bypassed the Cavaliers tour.
Kirk set his sights on World Cup selection. Having made the cut, he was then pressed into the captaincy because of Dalton's hamstring problems.