It was dubbed as the flap before the scrap. The one and only televised American vice-presidential debate was more about putting the money on Pence who was more than a refrain for Kaine.
The 90-minute, knock their leaders down and drag 'em out affair, was held in the tiny town of Farmville which is seen as a spit on the Virginia map with a dark past. It's where the Civil War ended and where segregation lingered longer than almost any other place in the United States, where they closed down the public schools in the late 50s rather than integrate them.
So that was the backdrop for what's being predicted as the Presidential war to settle the score, or the brawl to end it all when Donald Trump squares off for the second time against Hillary Clinton next Monday, New Zealand time.
At the end of the stoush between Indiana Governor Mike Pence in the Trump corner and Senator Tim Kaine as the Clinton running mate, you couldn't help but think, why weren't these two men the main proponents to take the White House?
Ironically in temperament Pence was more like Clinton while her buddy Kaine was more Trump, only with a little less panache. But unlike Trump, both men had clearly been in training for their outing in the three star, one horse town.