Kiribati's President, Anote Tong, is a small, softly spoken man from a small country - but he has a big problem and is increasingly finding he also has a big voice.
Of all the leaders at the Pacific Islands Forum in Auckland this week, it was Mr Tong - a young-looking 59-year-old - who had the dominant voice.
He said nothing about climate change he has not said before in the eight years he has led the small country of 100,000 people which is made up of low-lying islands. He has spoken at Copenhagen, at the United Nations General Assembly, anywhere he could.
The difference was that this time the visit to Kiribati by UN Secretary-General Ban Ki Moon on his way to the Pacific Forum - and Mr Ban's shock at the damage rising sea levels had already done - ensured Mr Tong had an audience.
Some of the options he set out for Kiribati sounded fantastical - a floating island, which he described as similar to oil rigs. He had seen models "and it was like science fiction, almost like something in space. So modern, I don't know if our people could live on it."