Prison has its place, but there are questions over how well it works, says Sir Grant Hammond, judge and president of the Law Commission.
"They're going to come out," he says of those sent to prison.
Sir Grant left the bench for the Law Commission, which advises the Government on law reform.
He said a way had to be found stop the flow of young Maori men into a prison system in which they occupy more than half the cells.
"Efficacy is doubtful. You've got these huge costs, prisons are bursting at the seams. That in turn deflects badly needed resources from health and education ... The future surely has to lie in really trying to reinforce community options and restricting incarceration to those cases that really need it. There are a small percentage of cases where people are utterly dangerous. There are people in D Block in Pare [Paremoremo maximum security prison] who will never get out."