Their respective tones may have differed markedly, but National and Labour basically gave Winston Peters the same message yesterday: You can try to impose bottom lines all you like before post-election negotiations, but we won't make the mistake of agreeing to them. At least not for a long time yet. And quite probably not this side of election day next year.
Labour's David Cunliffe greeted Peters' announcement that his party's new KiwiFund policy would be a bottom line in coalition negotiations with politeness, but sounded less than enthusiastic about the idea of creating a government-backed fund to handle KiwiSaver contributions.
John Key did not bother with the pleasantries, saying you would get more sense out of the Mad Hatter's Tea Party than New Zealand First.
The Prime Minister was scathing about Peters' sudden insistence on bottom lines, predicting they would melt away once the hard talking started after the election.
The reaction of both major party leaders was understandable. Not only are they unwilling to be hostage to bottom lines. In part that is because though it might be tempting to try to butter Peters up before an election in the hope of pay-offs afterwards, as Key says, it probably counts for little when the real negotiating begins.