New Zealand soldiers have been in Bamiyan Province, Afghanistan, for nearly 10 years trying to help the local people.
If nothing else, the deaths of two more soldiers and wounding of six others have underlined the futility of New Zealand keeping troops in Afghanistan much longer.
New Zealand's blackest day during this country's near decade-old deployment in Bamiyan Province has only strengthened the already-compelling rationale for the withdrawal of the provincial reconstruction team which is timetabled for next year.
The top brass in the Defence Force continue to make the obligatory noises about New Zealand troops keeping the Taleban and other "insurgents" in check while local Afghan security forces are readied to take control. But even the military do not sound convinced.
The reason is simple. The facts of Saturday's tragic firefight and a subsequent insurgent attack on Sunday night by rocket-propelled grenades and small-arms fire on New Zealand soldiers in the village of Do Abe speak otherwise - just as they did with the SAS endeavouring to fulfil a mentoring function with Afghan forces in Kabul, the country's capital.