It was someone who could work well for less money, who could work with others, who was adaptive, practical, disruptive, lateral thinkers and could take risks.
"None of those are the obvious qualities of a public servant but we need to make them the core qualities of the public servant," he said.
One of New Zealand's biggest economic opportunities was the ability to capitalise on the infrastructure boom in Australia instead of worrying about the fact that the truck drivers can earn twice as much.
"We need to be thinking more positively about how our businesses who know about that stuff can get inside those massive supply chains where there are very large margins to be made."
"In a war on talent let's stop wringing our hands about it and just get out and compete with whatever tool we can think of."
One of those tools was leadership and creating an environment where the kind of talent thrived in New Zealand organisations.
He said New Zealand should be thinking positively about the opportunities that we have from being next door to the fastest growing developed economy in the world.
"Those opportunities are to attract investment from there to here, create jobs in New Zealand, and the other is for our businesses to grow by participating in the infrastructure boom - so if someone goes over there they are working for a New Zealand company making profits for us. That's a big opportunity."
