From the start, R&B star Chris Brown cultivated a bad-boy image. That did him no favours when, six year ago, he assaulted singer Rihanna, his then girlfriend. For many people, the violence of the attack left no room for shades of grey, or for forgiveness. Brown was instantly irredeemable.
National MP Judith Collins was speaking for that group when, in response to Brown's wish to perform at the Vector Arena in December, she observed that "we've already got enough wife-beaters in this country".
Underlying this view is a belief there is little chance that criminals can be rehabilitated. On that ground, the punishment meted out to Brown - five years' probation, 180 days of community service, and attendance at a 12-month domestic violence programme - was largely a waste of time.
To some extent, Brown's subsequent erratic conduct bears that out. Yet he has also offered several apologies, spoken against domestic violence, and worked with American charities in that field.