The horse racing industry has seen better times and has been making admirable efforts to increase and broaden its appeal, including to young families.
But two racing clubs have gone a step too far, in the view of the Problem Gambling Foundation, when they offer "kiddie pick" prizes to children who pick a winner.
It may sound like a harmless promotion - there appears to be no money at stake, the kids can choose three horses in a race and they win lollies if one comes in.
But the foundation director calls it a gateway to gambling, "almost grooming ... introducing them to the whole thing of reward, picking a jockey on a horse and watching it race and wanting it to win and getting a reward".
That is pretty much the whole appeal of racing for the punter.