One of the country's most experienced intensive care doctors admits he has never been more afraid than he is right now, in light of Covid-19.
And he warns that if the public do not stay home, people will end up in hospitals and the healthcare system will be so stretched that those involved in accidents or suffer strokes or heart attacks will simply die.
Wellington Hospital intensive care specialist, Dr Paul Young, is well-known for his involvement in clinical research to improve the outcomes of critically ill patients around the world.
But even he is not afraid to come out right and say it - he is scared.