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Chief Justice to Parliament: Proposed terrorism bill inadequate, unworkable

Derek Cheng
By Derek Cheng
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15 Nov, 2019 02:30 AM4 mins to read

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Chief Justice Dame Helen Winkelmann has written to Parliament about her concerns with police control orders to fight terrorists. Photo / Supplied

Chief Justice Dame Helen Winkelmann has written to Parliament about her concerns with police control orders to fight terrorists. Photo / Supplied

The highest judicial officer in the land has taken the rare step of writing to Parliament to expose holes in a proposed law aimed at shackling Kiwi terrorists who come home after fighting overseas.

Chief Justice Dame Helen Winkelmann has sent a written submission to the foreign affairs, defence and trade select committee to outline her concerns with the Terrorism Suppression (Control Orders) bill.

The bill would let police apply to a High Court judge for a control order to impose conditions on a terrorist who returned to New Zealand after being involved in terrorist activities overseas.

It could apply to Mark Taylor, also known as the Kiwi jihadi, who has been fighting in Syria.

Such conditions could include electronic monitoring, a requirement to reside at a specific address, or regular reporting to the police.

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The bill has courted controversy not only for the political scrap between Labour and National that is usually absent in national security issues, but also for human rights concerns.

In her submission, Winkelmann said there should be a standard legislative framework that dealt with court cases involving classified national security information.

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"But in the absence of such legislation, the judiciary would be most concerned if this bill were to be enacted without an adequate legal framework for dealing with such information in the context of applications for control orders."

She took issue with the ability of an accused terrorist to view information used to build a case against them, and the ability of a Special Advocate to challenge that information if it wasn't disclosed.

"Natural justice requires the defendant to know, and have an opportunity to answer, all information likely to be taken into account against them.

"Any incursions into this fundamental principle should be clearly set out in legislation, should be no more extensive than necessary, and should be accompanied by appropriate safeguards to ensure that the interests of the defendant are protected as effectively as possible."

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Winkelmann said the Special Advocate's role should be greater than simply making submissions on "the relevance and reliability of the non-discloseable information".

"It should extend to challenging the classification of the information as non-discloseable, and making applications on behalf of the person (for example, seeking additional information, the existence of which is revealed by the non-discloseable information, but which has not been provided)."

Mark Taylor aka Mohammad Daniel, the Kiwi jihadist. Photo / Supplied
Mark Taylor aka Mohammad Daniel, the Kiwi jihadist. Photo / Supplied

She said the Special Advocate's role was "unclear" as set out in the bill, which should spell it out clearly rather than letting the court decide.

Special Advocates should also be protected from liability for misconduct that normally applied to all lawyers, as long as the Special Advocate acted in accordance with the bill.

"Without provisions of this kind, the Special Advocate regime is inadequate to protect the interests of the relevant persons, and may prove unworkable in practice."

Winkelmann also referred to the principles of open justice.

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"It is a fundamental principle of our court system that justice is normally done in public. Any exceptions to that principle in legislation require clear justification, and should be set out in the legislation expressly and with as much clarity and precision as practicable."

Her submission only dealt with court procedures and she did not comment on the substance of the bill.

Justice Minister Andrew Little accused the National Party of playing politics with the bill. Photo / Mark Mitchell
Justice Minister Andrew Little accused the National Party of playing politics with the bill. Photo / Mark Mitchell

The Law Society has also criticised the Special Advocate's role as set out in the bill.

"[The bill] does not fundamentally say the role of the lawyer is to represent the interests of the client, or to use evidence in the interests of the client in the way one would expect a lawyer to do," Law Society spokesman Professor Geoff McLay told the committee this week.

He said the threat to national security had to be weighed against aspects of the bill that contravened legal principles, such as the presumption of innocence and guilt beyond reasonable doubt.

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