At times the Finance Minister, the Dipton drawler Bill English, sounds a bit like a tyre kicking cockie. This is hardly surprising considering in his other life that's exactly what he is.
Talking to a room full of suits in Wellington yesterday he told them not to hold their breath for a tax cut next year, which had them spluttering into their Pinot Noir.
And when it came to questions from the floor, their silence said it all. Just one question was forthcoming, which was from one of the luncheon's organisers.
Afterwards he drawled on that if there's any spending to be done, it'll go on infrastructure because "people are turning up" which means the immigration gates are swinging as rapidly as the sheep counting gates down on the farm.
To emphasise his point he said that when kids are turning up you have to build the classrooms.