Trade Ministers are a curious bunch. They're usually articulate, well educated, are generally self obsessed about their ability to cut a deal and are forever lauding their successes, or at least taking about the potential.
But in recent years blathering on about success has been misplaced. Our success in doing trade deals in recent years has been woeful, in fairness with the Trans Pacific Partnership not helped by the current occupant of the White House.
National Ministers have been strong on rhetoric but short on delivery.
You may remember the much-lauded free trade agreement with the Gulf States, but then again you may not because it was so long ago. The then-Trade Minister Tim Groser had us believe that the deal only had to be translated from Arabic to English before being signed.
But bubbling away in the background was the moral compass in the region - the Saudis - and their frustration over our refusal to continue with live sheep exports to their country. Even a $13 million dollar farm sweetener by Foreign Minister Murray McCully couldn't do the trick.