Dan Carter's exit from Rugby World Cup 2011 is changing the betting landscape.
The TAB has moved the odds out on the All Blacks winning, to $1.60 from $1.50, before the news came through.
At the same time both South Africa and Australia have moved in, from $7 to $6 in the Springboks' case and from $8 to $7 for the Wallabies.
And we're hearing talk that some All Black fans are selling their tickets to the final - because they no longer think New Zealand will be in it.
They may be spurred by the hope of getting good prices from Northern Hemisphere visitors - the final has to be a north versus south affair because of the way the draw has worked out.