Between them, Joy Malthus and Joan Boyd have spent more than half a century volunteering for Red Cross in Palmerston North.
That's a lot of laughs, especially if you count how many times the women laughed during their interview with the Guardian.
Joy started volunteering in January 1990. She had finished a part-time job and her children were going their own ways. Someone heard a radio ad seeking volunteers for the Red Cross book sale and mentioned it to Joy; she was keen, as she likes books. She started working in both the retail and book shops - and still does.
Joy enjoys contributing to Red Cross's mission, which she describes as helping the underprivileged and vulnerable. "And, of course, I started and I never got back to work, did I."
She has also made many friends and stays in contact with former volunteers.