Margie Thomson is one of the country's most successful ghostwriters, having produced 15 books for psychic medium Kelvin Cruickshank, musician Stan Walker, mental health advocate Sir John Kirwan and others. She is also the author of the highly regarded Whale Oil, published in 2019.
I fell into it partly by
accident and partly because I had been wanting to take on the challenge of a book project. I'd been a journalist for a long time and was always interviewing people but I wanted the chance to take on an exponentially longer project and to think about voice and all the poles that make up a novel.
The people who you are writing for are alpha personalities, they are very busy and they are often not very available to you, so it's more of a creative exercise than you might think.
When people are talking about themselves, they don't necessarily speak very coherently or chronologically; you can't use very much of what you gather. It's manicured and restructured and shuffled around, but you're keeping key phrases and insights. You spend so much time with this person, immersed in their life, and you are writing as if you are this person - which is really weird when you think of someone like Stan, who is a 29-year-old Māori guy and I'm a late-50s Pakeha woman - but you just have to imagine yourself into their shoes. Maybe my superpower is that I find it relatively easy to imagine myself in the lives of others.
I have written two books for John Kirwan. The first was All Blacks Don't Cry. That was a classic model of the kinds of books I seem to have done, someone who has a story that is of genuine public interest, but they have a value-added thing that they want to share or offer the public. I still feel really proud of that book and it's gone on having an impact. It's interesting as a marker of how we have all changed — now so many guys have come out and shared their stories of struggling with depression, it's becoming much more normalised. But he was the first and it was a really courageous thing to do because there was no guarantee he was going to get a good reception. He can't go out the door, still, without people lining up to tell him their problems.